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Hi,
is an upgrade to Debian 12 (bookworm) possible?
Posted : 26/02/2024 2:46 pm
It is planned and we are currently working on it.
Posted : 26/02/2024 3:06 pm
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I am trying the update manually on the vivvid unit machine.
This is my "/etc/apt/sources" file now:
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
After "apt-get update" I try "apt-get upgrade" and furtheron "apt-get full-upgrade" with these results:
sudo apt-get full-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libcdio-cdda2 libcdio-paranoia2 libenca0 libldb2 liblirc-client0 liblmdb0 libmng1 libsdl1.2debian libtalloc2 libtevent0 libvorbisidec1 libwbclient0 libxvmc1 python3-ldb Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. The following packages have been kept back: acpi-support-base acpid adduser adwaita-icon-theme alsa-utils anacron apt apt-transport-https apt-utils at-spi2-core base-files base-passwd bash binfmt-support binutils binutils-aarch64-linux-gnu binutils-common blueman bluez bluez-obexd bsdextrautils bsdmainutils bsdutils bubblewrap busybox bzip2 ca-certificates cheese cheese-common cmake cmake-data console-setup console-setup-linux coreutils cpio cpp curl cutecom dash dbus dbus-x11 dconf-cli dconf-editor dconf-gsettings-backend dconf-service debconf debian-archive-keyring debian-keyring debianutils desktop-base diffutils dirmngr distro-info-data dmsetup dnsmasq-base dpkg dvb-tools e2fsprogs evtest exo-utils fdisk file findutils firefox-esr firmware-ath9k-htc fontconfig fontconfig-config fonts-dejavu-core fuse g++ gcc gdal-data gdisk gir1.2-atk-1.0 gir1.2-atspi-2.0 gir1.2-ayatanaappindicator3-0.1 gir1.2-freedesktop gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 gir1.2-glib-2.0 gir1.2-gst-plugins-bad-1.0 gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gir1.2-harfbuzz-0.0 gir1.2-libxfce4util-1.0 gir1.2-nm-1.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0 git git-man gjs glib-networking glib-networking-common glib-networking-services glmark2-data glmark2-drm glmark2-es2-drm glmark2-es2-wayland glmark2-es2-x11 glmark2-wayland glmark2-x11 gnome-desktop3-data gnome-sound-recorder gnupg gnupg-l10n gnupg-utils gpg gpg-agent gpg-wks-client gpg-wks-server gpgconf gpgsm gpgv grep groff-base gsettings-desktop-schemas gstreamer1.0-alsa gstreamer1.0-clutter-3.0 gstreamer1.0-gl gstreamer1.0-gtk3 gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer1.0-opencv gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad-apps gstreamer1.0-plugins-base gstreamer1.0-plugins-base-apps gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio gstreamer1.0-qt5 gstreamer1.0-tools gstreamer1.0-wpe gstreamer1.0-x gtk-update-icon-cache gvfs gvfs-common gvfs-daemons gvfs-libs gzip hardinfo hdparm hostname htop i2c-tools icu-devtools ifupdown 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Shouldn' t it upgrade the packages now?
Posted : 26/02/2024 6:37 pm
There are still quite some work to do before migrating to Debian 12, and you can not use apt upgrade to do it right away.
Posted : 27/02/2024 9:33 am
Any update on this? Debian 13 was released 13 days ago, and I had to make significant changes to
/etc/apt/sources
Just to be able to get zeroconf working. The default python is 3.9, etc. I do not want to sound ungrateful, but it has been more than a year since that last post. Is there any progress?
Posted : 20/09/2025 1:10 am
In case this helps anyone, this is my new /etc/apt/sources:
#deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free #deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free #deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free #deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free #deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free deb http://archive.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free #deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free deb http://archive.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free deb http://archive.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
And then I had to:
sudo apt-mark hold libavahi-common3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-core7 libavahi-client3 avahi-daemon
to get avahi to install so I could have zeroconf working.
I could find no documentation telling me I had to do anything like this, no one seems to have reported the issue (please correct me if either is incorrect). The Vivid unit is really nice to prototype with, its just a shame that as Debian 11 is deprecated there isn't active support telling us what to do to keep it running
Posted : 20/09/2025 6:14 pm